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Last week's episode I talked about the pain 2 00:00:03,210 --> 00:00:05,670 of not feeling like you belong in community 3 00:00:06,390 --> 00:00:09,690 and I wanted to expand about that and 4 00:00:09,690 --> 00:00:11,310 so this week I'm going to be speaking 5 00:00:11,310 --> 00:00:17,550 about how to make individuals, especially neurodivergent individuals, 6 00:00:17,750 --> 00:00:21,490 disabled individuals, people who are often left out 7 00:00:21,490 --> 00:00:25,150 of community, how to make them feel like 8 00:00:25,150 --> 00:00:27,630 a part of your community and welcoming and 9 00:00:27,630 --> 00:00:30,010 it goes far beyond saying hey we're an 10 00:00:30,010 --> 00:00:32,790 inclusive group or hey we're an inclusive community 11 00:00:32,790 --> 00:00:36,530 or our goal is to make everybody you 12 00:00:36,530 --> 00:00:39,970 know feel nice and comfortable because saying those 13 00:00:39,970 --> 00:00:43,570 words are is one thing doing the actions 14 00:00:43,570 --> 00:00:46,510 taking the steps necessary to actually put them 15 00:00:46,510 --> 00:00:49,750 into place is something that let's be honest 16 00:00:49,750 --> 00:00:51,830 a lot of groups and a lot of 17 00:00:51,830 --> 00:00:54,210 individuals just aren't willing to do. 18 00:00:54,450 --> 00:00:57,690 So let's dive deeply into this pride episode 19 00:00:57,690 --> 00:01:00,550 and talk about how to make our spaces 20 00:01:00,550 --> 00:01:06,550 much more welcoming for neurodivergent and disabled individuals. 21 00:01:07,430 --> 00:01:11,250 You're listening to Feathermane Soul Wisdom, a podcast 22 00:01:11,250 --> 00:01:14,130 for those looking to rediscover their wild spirit 23 00:01:14,130 --> 00:01:15,650 in spite of life's challenges. 24 00:01:15,890 --> 00:01:18,370 If you're living with a chronic illness or 25 00:01:18,370 --> 00:01:22,130 neurodivergent or consider yourself disabled and you're looking 26 00:01:22,130 --> 00:01:24,630 to connect with your own inner untamed essence, 27 00:01:24,970 --> 00:01:26,630 then this show is for you. 28 00:01:26,970 --> 00:01:30,050 Your host is Kit Kaelstow, Wild Spirit Storyteller. 29 00:01:30,370 --> 00:01:32,450 Thanks for listening and now on to the 30 00:01:32,450 --> 00:01:32,910 episode. 31 00:01:33,550 --> 00:01:36,670 Hi I'm Kit Kaelstow, your host for the 32 00:01:36,670 --> 00:01:39,870 Feathermane Soul Wisdom show and you know what 33 00:01:39,870 --> 00:01:43,130 I'm just going to be really honest and 34 00:01:43,130 --> 00:01:45,730 really transparent up front. 35 00:01:46,790 --> 00:01:50,510 I have reached a stage in my life 36 00:01:50,510 --> 00:01:58,330 that well whatever whatever shreds or faint hints 37 00:01:58,330 --> 00:02:01,930 of a filter I had as an undiagnosed 38 00:02:01,930 --> 00:02:06,510 and then diagnosed autistic individual those little wisps 39 00:02:06,510 --> 00:02:08,770 of a filter that I held on to 40 00:02:08,770 --> 00:02:12,270 for most of my life they're gone I'm 41 00:02:12,270 --> 00:02:17,030 sorry they I I have reached the stage 42 00:02:17,030 --> 00:02:20,330 of life where the field in which my 43 00:02:20,330 --> 00:02:25,850 f's are grown is barren it it doesn't 44 00:02:25,850 --> 00:02:28,770 grow them anymore and I have to admit 45 00:02:28,770 --> 00:02:32,930 it could be the past 18 months or 46 00:02:32,930 --> 00:02:36,910 so well you know possibly the past 10 47 00:02:36,910 --> 00:02:39,870 years or so but especially the past couple 48 00:02:39,870 --> 00:02:44,010 of years I guess I used to be 49 00:02:44,010 --> 00:02:49,210 a really happy bubbly optimistic you know we're 50 00:02:49,210 --> 00:02:51,110 all in this together type person and I 51 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:52,730 would like to still be that type of 52 00:02:52,730 --> 00:02:59,570 person but I also have had some stark 53 00:02:59,570 --> 00:03:05,910 awareness about humanity and community and people in 54 00:03:05,910 --> 00:03:09,990 it and honestly I blame my undergrad in 55 00:03:09,990 --> 00:03:14,630 psychology because sitting through two years of classes 56 00:03:14,630 --> 00:03:17,430 that basically tell me that I'm the one 57 00:03:17,430 --> 00:03:22,110 with deficits that I'm the one that isn't 58 00:03:22,110 --> 00:03:24,030 you know I'm the square peg that's not 59 00:03:24,030 --> 00:03:27,990 fitting into their round neurotypical hole you know 60 00:03:27,990 --> 00:03:30,930 that that was a weird analogy I'm sorry 61 00:03:30,930 --> 00:03:34,610 but you know basically being told for two 62 00:03:34,610 --> 00:03:38,490 years that I was the problem when it 63 00:03:38,490 --> 00:03:41,710 was very clearly I don't know the professor 64 00:03:41,710 --> 00:03:45,110 that allowed really rampant transphobia in their capstone 65 00:03:45,110 --> 00:03:46,990 class that was supposed to be all about 66 00:03:46,990 --> 00:03:53,970 cultural sensitivity yeah so I'm I want this 67 00:03:53,970 --> 00:04:00,070 episode to be constructive I want this episode 68 00:04:00,070 --> 00:04:05,030 to be something that people can take away 69 00:04:05,030 --> 00:04:09,050 you know tidbits of information from or maybe 70 00:04:09,050 --> 00:04:14,030 that they can look more deeply into their 71 00:04:14,030 --> 00:04:16,310 hearts look more deeply into their groups their 72 00:04:16,310 --> 00:04:23,550 organizations but I'll be honest my autistic pattern 73 00:04:23,550 --> 00:04:28,630 recognition tells me that we're on our own 74 00:04:28,630 --> 00:04:33,460 my friends it you know we we cannot 75 00:04:33,460 --> 00:04:38,120 rely on other people to create space for 76 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,320 us and maybe that's the whole message of 77 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,880 pride you know pride is when as a 78 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,340 queer individual you step forward and you say 79 00:04:48,340 --> 00:04:50,460 I am proud I am who I am 80 00:04:50,460 --> 00:04:51,840 and I am proud of that and I 81 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:55,860 am I mean there I really I really 82 00:04:55,860 --> 00:04:57,860 don't want to diminish that in any way 83 00:04:57,860 --> 00:05:00,800 and so when the world doesn't make space 84 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,440 for you you have to make space for 85 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:08,220 yourself and so while yes I'm going to 86 00:05:08,220 --> 00:05:10,700 spend this episode talking about the different ways 87 00:05:10,700 --> 00:05:13,980 that organizations can work to be more inclusive 88 00:05:13,980 --> 00:05:16,340 can help make sure there is space for 89 00:05:16,340 --> 00:05:18,280 everybody and everybody feels like a part of 90 00:05:18,280 --> 00:05:21,760 the community I also think we have to 91 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,260 be aware that we have to make space 92 00:05:23,260 --> 00:05:28,340 for ourselves maybe I'll do you know fine 93 00:05:28,340 --> 00:05:30,460 maybe I'll do another pride episode next week 94 00:05:30,460 --> 00:05:35,960 and talk about that we'll see but let's 95 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,420 just recap a little bit the reasons why 96 00:05:39,420 --> 00:05:45,280 individuals may not feel comfortable in groups or 97 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:46,800 feel like they're a part of the community 98 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,460 if you are neurodivergent and that is a 99 00:05:50,460 --> 00:05:53,660 broad broad umbrella I'm not just talking about 100 00:05:53,660 --> 00:06:00,060 autism ADHD and AUDHD there is a vast 101 00:06:00,060 --> 00:06:05,000 list of diagnoses that people could have that 102 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,700 would be indicating how their brain works that 103 00:06:09,700 --> 00:06:12,220 you know could be a traumatic brain injury 104 00:06:12,220 --> 00:06:20,320 complex PTSD is considered a divergent neurotype Tourette's 105 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:25,760 depression anxiety all of that you know there's 106 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,880 a huge list of conditions there's no way 107 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,940 I could list them all and if your 108 00:06:31,940 --> 00:06:35,580 brain does not work the way that culture 109 00:06:35,580 --> 00:06:39,320 or society expects then you're going to feel 110 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,480 left out and if you're not aware that 111 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,600 that's why you're feeling left out as many 112 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:50,480 undiagnosed neurodivergent individuals do then you know that's 113 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,220 going to compound that because you're going to 114 00:06:52,220 --> 00:06:54,340 feel left out of community and you're not 115 00:06:54,340 --> 00:06:59,920 going to know why so organizations what can 116 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:05,080 you do to help individuals who are neurodivergent 117 00:07:05,860 --> 00:07:09,040 feel welcome and wanted and that wanted is 118 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,760 the most important part here I think of 119 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,620 this discussion because it's hell to feel like 120 00:07:13,620 --> 00:07:16,820 you're not wanted in a group trust me 121 00:07:16,820 --> 00:07:22,400 you're not alone in that what can an 122 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:27,660 organization do to make somebody feel wanted well 123 00:07:27,660 --> 00:07:33,940 first of all is respect everybody's lived experience 124 00:07:33,940 --> 00:07:39,440 if somebody tells you something isn't working don't 125 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,220 dismiss it as just them if something if 126 00:07:43,220 --> 00:07:49,280 somebody actually has the strength the executive function 127 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,840 the strong feeling to speak up about something 128 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,720 that should be listened to and if it 129 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,340 is an accessibility thing such as a sensory 130 00:08:01,340 --> 00:08:06,140 issue if it's a way somebody's acting it 131 00:08:06,140 --> 00:08:09,720 should always be examined and is this a 132 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,860 valid concern is this something we can take 133 00:08:11,860 --> 00:08:14,640 action on and not just dismiss it because 134 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:20,480 of who it's coming from likewise if you 135 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,720 have somebody come into your organization that has 136 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,240 experience that differs from a large group of 137 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,120 people in the organization so since this is 138 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,000 a pride month it would be if your 139 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:39,539 if your pride group is primarily local individuals 140 00:08:39,539 --> 00:08:43,980 who are gay who are lesbian who are 141 00:08:43,980 --> 00:08:48,640 transgender if an asexual or an agender person 142 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:53,580 comes into your group don't dismiss their concerns 143 00:08:54,330 --> 00:08:56,900 when they bring them up just because they're 144 00:08:56,900 --> 00:08:59,540 not the same as everybody in the group 145 00:09:00,460 --> 00:09:03,400 and we see this sometimes in the queer 146 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:08,280 community with agender people with bisexual people with 147 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:14,800 people who whose gender and sexual orientation do 148 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,280 not align with kind of you know what 149 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,180 the media tells us that pride should be 150 00:09:21,180 --> 00:09:24,640 our group should be the other thing should 151 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,520 be if you do group activities together make 152 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:33,510 sure expectations are clear a great example is 153 00:09:33,510 --> 00:09:36,630 the meme i've seen going around where you 154 00:09:36,630 --> 00:09:38,990 know a bunch of people are invited to 155 00:09:38,990 --> 00:09:42,410 a picnic and the person running the picnic 156 00:09:42,410 --> 00:09:43,950 says no i don't need to bring anything 157 00:09:43,950 --> 00:09:47,130 it's all good and the person who took 158 00:09:47,130 --> 00:09:49,690 that literally shows up without anything because they 159 00:09:49,690 --> 00:09:52,030 were told it's good it's okay you don't 160 00:09:52,030 --> 00:09:54,890 have to bring anything when everybody else does 161 00:09:54,890 --> 00:09:57,010 and then that makes them feel left out 162 00:09:57,010 --> 00:09:58,810 then they're like hey why didn't you bring 163 00:09:58,810 --> 00:10:01,570 anything and the person says well you told 164 00:10:01,570 --> 00:10:05,950 me not to i didn't mean that don't 165 00:10:05,950 --> 00:10:08,990 do that mean what you say say what 166 00:10:08,990 --> 00:10:16,210 you mean make clear expectations clear directions and 167 00:10:16,210 --> 00:10:20,450 with those clear directions if you're making a 168 00:10:20,450 --> 00:10:26,090 group decision make sure that every voice is 169 00:10:26,090 --> 00:10:29,190 heard and if you have somebody in the 170 00:10:29,190 --> 00:10:32,310 group that is going what you know whatever 171 00:10:32,310 --> 00:10:34,910 the group wants whatever you say make sure 172 00:10:34,910 --> 00:10:37,250 they get a say in things too because 173 00:10:37,250 --> 00:10:41,830 quite often the person that defaults to you 174 00:10:41,830 --> 00:10:45,270 know whatever you want you know best it's 175 00:10:45,270 --> 00:10:48,630 okay i'll do what you want usually they're 176 00:10:48,630 --> 00:10:51,690 defaulting if that becomes a default for somebody 177 00:10:51,690 --> 00:10:55,590 that's usually a fawning behavior and that's an 178 00:10:55,590 --> 00:11:03,410 indication that there is trauma that that person 179 00:11:03,410 --> 00:11:06,090 either has trauma in their past and that's 180 00:11:06,090 --> 00:11:09,210 that's how their neurotype or their brain works 181 00:11:09,210 --> 00:11:13,450 or that they are not feeling comfortable and 182 00:11:13,450 --> 00:11:15,370 safe in the group to speak up with 183 00:11:15,370 --> 00:11:19,530 their needs i want to shift gears a 184 00:11:19,530 --> 00:11:24,510 little bit to disability disabilities aren't just needing 185 00:11:24,510 --> 00:11:27,490 a mobility aid such as a cane or 186 00:11:27,490 --> 00:11:32,670 a wheelchair disabilities aren't just visible there are 187 00:11:32,670 --> 00:11:35,990 a host a large number of invisible disabilities 188 00:11:35,990 --> 00:11:39,770 and regardless of whether a disability is visible 189 00:11:39,770 --> 00:11:44,170 or invisible just you know your abilities vary 190 00:11:44,170 --> 00:11:46,290 on any given day and i think that's 191 00:11:46,290 --> 00:11:49,170 something we can all agree on regardless as 192 00:11:49,170 --> 00:11:52,270 of whether society considers us disabled or not 193 00:11:52,270 --> 00:11:54,570 that one day you wake up you have 194 00:11:54,570 --> 00:11:56,190 a lot of energy you can do things 195 00:11:56,190 --> 00:11:58,270 the next day you wake up and well 196 00:11:58,270 --> 00:12:00,090 to use the southern term you feel like 197 00:12:00,090 --> 00:12:05,750 a can of busted biscuits the other thing 198 00:12:05,750 --> 00:12:10,310 about disabilities is that you've got to keep 199 00:12:10,310 --> 00:12:13,950 in mind the models of disabilities some people 200 00:12:13,950 --> 00:12:17,330 are disabled because there is a medical condition 201 00:12:17,330 --> 00:12:23,230 causing the disability some people are disabled because 202 00:12:23,230 --> 00:12:26,870 society has disabled them society has blocked them 203 00:12:26,870 --> 00:12:33,410 access society has blocked them the ability to 204 00:12:33,410 --> 00:12:35,570 go about their life and so to tie 205 00:12:35,570 --> 00:12:39,750 that back into like the neurodivergent individuals a 206 00:12:39,750 --> 00:12:42,170 you know as somebody with a neurodivergent brain 207 00:12:42,170 --> 00:12:45,730 my brain is operating the way that my 208 00:12:45,730 --> 00:12:47,930 brain operates there's nothing wrong with how your 209 00:12:47,930 --> 00:12:54,050 brain operates however society is disabling because society 210 00:12:54,050 --> 00:12:59,630 has created rules and structures and expectations that 211 00:12:59,630 --> 00:13:02,550 do not match well with my brain and 212 00:13:02,550 --> 00:13:06,310 society with and culture is all built around 213 00:13:06,310 --> 00:13:09,830 the neurotypical brain and so society that's the 214 00:13:09,830 --> 00:13:15,130 societal disabling societal disabling would be a church 215 00:13:15,130 --> 00:13:18,290 for example without a wheelchair ramp or a 216 00:13:18,290 --> 00:13:23,030 church without the ability for an individual using 217 00:13:23,030 --> 00:13:25,570 a wheelchair to receive communion at the altar 218 00:13:25,570 --> 00:13:29,810 to use a couple of examples from my 219 00:13:29,810 --> 00:13:38,320 education society can disable in that way and 220 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,240 so when you have disabled individuals in your 221 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,440 group and i want to be clear disabled 222 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,500 is not a bad word there are language 223 00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:50,760 preferences among different groups but personally i don't 224 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,040 consider disabled a bad word because as i 225 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,740 just got done explaining sometimes it's not me 226 00:13:58,740 --> 00:14:04,660 that's disabled it's society and so with that 227 00:14:04,660 --> 00:14:08,460 it includes it includes or involves a little 228 00:14:08,460 --> 00:14:12,840 more conscientiousness and a little more care on 229 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,820 your organization if you're a small group maybe 230 00:14:16,820 --> 00:14:19,120 even as much as a dozen people you 231 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,280 probably know most of the people in the 232 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,700 group so it's no big deal to say 233 00:14:25,700 --> 00:14:28,500 to know okay i know this member of 234 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:31,460 my group i know that they sometimes have 235 00:14:31,460 --> 00:14:33,520 days where they're not able to walk very 236 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,580 far let's make sure we can accommodate this 237 00:14:36,580 --> 00:14:38,820 person in our gathering or in our event 238 00:14:38,820 --> 00:14:42,240 no problem at all so a good example 239 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,140 would be a pride parade and you know 240 00:14:45,140 --> 00:14:48,820 making sure that this person can participate on 241 00:14:48,820 --> 00:14:51,040 a float for example or in the back 242 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,220 of a truck sitting down however however that 243 00:14:54,220 --> 00:14:57,720 works um for for your particular parade but 244 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,960 making sure the person can be comfortable can 245 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:04,100 be safe while participating and still feeling like 246 00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:05,800 a part of the event in other words 247 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,580 like the other part of that would be 248 00:15:07,580 --> 00:15:11,280 don't have everybody walking and then have just 249 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,180 this one person sitting in a chair you 250 00:15:14,180 --> 00:15:17,540 know have a small group of people on 251 00:15:17,540 --> 00:15:19,540 the float sitting down have some on the 252 00:15:19,540 --> 00:15:21,580 float standing up if there's room if it's 253 00:15:21,580 --> 00:15:23,840 safe have some people you know walking around 254 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,280 passing out candy whatever you wish to do 255 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,220 for your event make sure that that person 256 00:15:30,220 --> 00:15:34,890 is not singled out in any way the 257 00:15:34,890 --> 00:15:37,510 other thing i would say is if it's 258 00:15:37,510 --> 00:15:42,250 a larger group simply be aware that you 259 00:15:42,250 --> 00:15:47,830 may have people attending that are not able 260 00:15:47,830 --> 00:15:52,610 to participate in a certain manner again no 261 00:15:52,610 --> 00:15:55,230 judgment calls there's no no right or wrong 262 00:15:55,230 --> 00:15:57,530 but if you're if you're a larger group 263 00:15:57,530 --> 00:16:00,690 or not everybody knows everybody or you're you're 264 00:16:00,690 --> 00:16:03,810 not on such close terms with everybody somebody 265 00:16:03,810 --> 00:16:06,130 may not disclose hey i have an invisible 266 00:16:06,130 --> 00:16:12,230 disability not me i'll disclose but not everybody 267 00:16:12,230 --> 00:16:15,090 does and that's their choice and so you 268 00:16:15,090 --> 00:16:17,250 want to make sure that you are creating 269 00:16:17,250 --> 00:16:21,070 an event creating a space where people with 270 00:16:21,070 --> 00:16:28,670 energy limitations with sensory issues with mobility issues 271 00:16:28,670 --> 00:16:34,190 can actually participate in the event and yet 272 00:16:34,190 --> 00:16:39,810 feel safe and so when you put those 273 00:16:39,810 --> 00:16:44,930 two pieces together the bottom line the best 274 00:16:44,930 --> 00:16:48,810 way to have people to include people and 275 00:16:48,810 --> 00:16:54,330 bring people into your community is to simply 276 00:16:54,330 --> 00:16:58,430 be considerate of other people to honor other 277 00:16:58,430 --> 00:17:05,750 people's lived experiences and to really just put 278 00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:09,310 yourselves in the shoes of other people in 279 00:17:09,310 --> 00:17:12,329 other situations that you may not have experienced 280 00:17:14,220 --> 00:17:18,160 and this to me goes hand in hand 281 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,119 with leadership and so if you have the 282 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,300 leader of a group that's basically saying one 283 00:17:25,300 --> 00:17:27,339 thing and yet members of the group are 284 00:17:27,339 --> 00:17:31,020 feeling like the that you know what that 285 00:17:31,020 --> 00:17:35,800 person's saying is not being followed then that 286 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,840 really does not um you know then that 287 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,200 does not indicate good leadership a good leader 288 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,800 needs to be able to look at things 289 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,600 from multiple points of view and needs to 290 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,940 be able to accept different lived experiences and 291 00:17:53,940 --> 00:17:58,520 different people's experiences even if everybody is doing 292 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,200 the same thing at that same moment because 293 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,600 you we don't know sensory issues sensory differences 294 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:13,140 nobody knows what another person can experience you 295 00:18:13,140 --> 00:18:16,300 know there are no lights that flash on 296 00:18:16,300 --> 00:18:18,480 your forehead when like the lights are too 297 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,960 bright or the background noise is too loud 298 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:26,100 and maybe somebody with an auditory processing issue 299 00:18:26,100 --> 00:18:30,440 is having difficulty with that conversation because the 300 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,260 band is you know the band music is 301 00:18:32,260 --> 00:18:37,250 too loud you don't know what other people 302 00:18:37,250 --> 00:18:39,850 are going through unless they tell you and 303 00:18:39,850 --> 00:18:44,290 if they don't tell you then you need 304 00:18:44,290 --> 00:18:46,250 you know a good part of good community 305 00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:49,130 is making sure everybody feels included and everybody 306 00:18:49,130 --> 00:18:52,550 feels involved and so the the last thing 307 00:18:52,550 --> 00:18:55,390 I want to leave people with today is 308 00:18:55,390 --> 00:18:59,010 that even if somebody doesn't speak up not 309 00:18:59,010 --> 00:19:01,690 speaking up doesn't mean that things aren't happening 310 00:19:01,690 --> 00:19:04,450 what that tells you is that you've created 311 00:19:04,450 --> 00:19:07,970 an environment where somebody doesn't feel safe speaking 312 00:19:07,970 --> 00:19:12,810 up and usually these people will just go 313 00:19:12,810 --> 00:19:14,810 away they'll just drift out of your group 314 00:19:14,810 --> 00:19:18,290 and the group will go on being inaccessible 315 00:19:18,290 --> 00:19:21,350 or the person will still stay a part 316 00:19:21,350 --> 00:19:22,810 of your group and just fade to the 317 00:19:22,810 --> 00:19:25,950 background and no longer do anything with the 318 00:19:25,950 --> 00:19:27,750 group or try to do very little as 319 00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:31,670 possible and that's going to be a clue 320 00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:36,090 that the group is not accessible now I 321 00:19:36,090 --> 00:19:37,230 want to spend just a little bit of 322 00:19:37,230 --> 00:19:38,670 time here at the end of my podcast 323 00:19:39,570 --> 00:19:44,370 why am I having this conversation because this 324 00:19:44,370 --> 00:19:50,750 ties into grief coaching this ties into yoga 325 00:19:50,750 --> 00:19:57,430 philosophy the you know ahisma non-violence do 326 00:19:57,430 --> 00:20:02,710 no harm this ties into the natural world 327 00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:08,170 this ties into everything and so just because 328 00:20:08,170 --> 00:20:18,030 this is maybe a it does not apply 329 00:20:18,030 --> 00:20:19,550 to the work that I do what it 330 00:20:19,550 --> 00:20:22,670 means is that this conversation I think needs 331 00:20:22,670 --> 00:20:24,770 to be had at this moment in time 332 00:20:24,770 --> 00:20:27,710 because there's an awful lot of people feeling 333 00:20:27,710 --> 00:20:29,450 left out of an awful lot of spaces 334 00:20:29,450 --> 00:20:33,210 and there's things happening again I'm in the 335 00:20:33,210 --> 00:20:35,450 U.S. there's things happening on the federal 336 00:20:35,450 --> 00:20:42,390 level that are drastically impacting certain marginalized communities 337 00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:47,930 that people not in those communities have no 338 00:20:47,930 --> 00:20:52,170 clue that this is going on and is 339 00:20:52,170 --> 00:20:56,630 eugenics is genocide is not good and so 340 00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:59,410 the one thing I would say is that 341 00:20:59,410 --> 00:21:01,830 if we start thinking about our community and 342 00:21:01,830 --> 00:21:04,170 thinking about reaching out to others in our 343 00:21:04,170 --> 00:21:06,670 in our small community whatever your group is 344 00:21:06,670 --> 00:21:10,390 you know a book club a pride organization 345 00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:16,450 a you know after school gathering you know 346 00:21:16,450 --> 00:21:18,910 whatever that community is a fan club of 347 00:21:18,910 --> 00:21:22,230 some sort a group of people that meet 348 00:21:22,230 --> 00:21:24,850 at a coffee house on Saturday mornings or 349 00:21:24,850 --> 00:21:27,950 Sunday mornings you know your church or religion 350 00:21:27,950 --> 00:21:31,650 whatever you whatever organizations whatever communities you're involved 351 00:21:31,650 --> 00:21:35,250 in even beyond pride if you start to 352 00:21:35,250 --> 00:21:38,170 think about how can I make this better 353 00:21:38,170 --> 00:21:43,530 for neurodivergent people for disabled people for queer 354 00:21:43,530 --> 00:21:49,430 people for people from the global south when 355 00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:55,050 you start thinking about that then when when 356 00:21:55,050 --> 00:21:57,990 you start thinking about that you make that 357 00:21:57,990 --> 00:22:01,090 space a little bit better and that eases 358 00:22:01,090 --> 00:22:03,430 the pressure on those communities and helps them 359 00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:07,310 feel a little more wanted so I guess 360 00:22:07,310 --> 00:22:10,910 this falls under you know my my thoughts 361 00:22:10,910 --> 00:22:13,270 of just be kind it costs you nothing 362 00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:16,130 to be kind it costs you nothing to 363 00:22:16,130 --> 00:22:19,570 say hey we have created this event does 364 00:22:19,570 --> 00:22:23,230 anybody see any problems with it as far 365 00:22:23,230 --> 00:22:26,290 as including other you know groups of individuals 366 00:22:26,290 --> 00:22:29,110 as far as including some of our our 367 00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:32,050 people who may have you know mobility or 368 00:22:32,050 --> 00:22:36,310 disability issues it costs you nothing to be 369 00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:38,470 kind and so I think that is a 370 00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:43,510 good place to leave this pride episode and 371 00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:49,630 we'll see about next week's show if maybe 372 00:22:49,630 --> 00:22:51,930 I can talk a little bit more on 373 00:22:51,930 --> 00:22:54,110 the subject as I mentioned at the first 374 00:22:54,110 --> 00:22:56,510 of this episode thank you so much for 375 00:22:56,510 --> 00:23:00,050 listening please don't forget to like or follow 376 00:23:00,050 --> 00:23:04,770 wherever you're hearing my voice and this is 377 00:23:04,770 --> 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