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(Transcribed by TurboScribe. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) If you learn from a very young age

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that expressing your needs, your wants, your emotions

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in any way led to being ignored or

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rejected or dismissed or even conflict, such as

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getting yelled at by a parent, then you're

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going to learn a habit called self-abandonment.

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And what that leads to is people pleasing

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and ignoring your gut instincts and being really

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perfectionist and criticizing yourself.

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What this means is that if you are

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a member of a community and you don't

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feel like you are a member of that

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community, then it's going to be very hard

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to make space for yourself or to even

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try to claim identity or kinship with that

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community.

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And that's what we're going to discuss here

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on our last Pride Month episode of the

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Feathermane Soul Wisdom Show.

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You're listening to Feathermane Soul Wisdom, a podcast

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for those looking to rediscover their wild spirit

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in spite of life's challenges.

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If you're living with a chronic illness or

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neurodivergent or consider yourself disabled and you're looking

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to connect with your own inner untamed essence,

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then this show is for you.

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Your host is Kit Kaelstow, Wild Spirit Storyteller.

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Thanks for listening and now on to the

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episode.

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Hello everybody, I'm your host Kit Kaelstow and

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this is our last Pride-specific episode as

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it is the end of June 2026.

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In our first episode, we talked about when

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you don't feel like you're a part of

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a community and when you don't feel like

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either you can claim membership in that community

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or that community sees you as a part

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of it.

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In our last episode last week, we talked

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about things that communities can do to include

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neurodivergent and disabled individuals.

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And finally in this episode, I want to

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follow up on a topic that I brought

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up in that last episode which is making

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space for yourself.

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As I was doing some work for this

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episode, it really kind of connected with me

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that if we do not make space for

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ourselves in a community and I'm not talking

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about like running up to a Pride parade

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and saying, hey let me in because I'm

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queer.

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What I'm talking about is actually believing that

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we are a member of a community following

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up on our lived experiences and honoring and

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trusting those feelings inside of ourselves.

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A good example of this is one of

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the discussions that I've been seeing going around

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my social media feeds especially here during Pride

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is how do you know if you're trans?

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And the point has been made that people

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who are 100% cis never ever question

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whether they're cis.

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They never ever ever question their gender.

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They know who they are and that's who

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they are.

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For people who are trans, even if it's

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just a teensy little bit and you wonder,

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you know, might I be trans?

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And I've heard this said too in the

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neurodivergent community.

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People who are autistic who are not autistic

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do not sit around wondering if they are

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autistic for example.

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And so if you're actually questioning that then

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that's a good indication that you may need

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to trust your instincts, trust your gut and

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do some exploration.

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Now the results of that exploration you may

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explore and you may realize no no I'm

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comfortable with my gender identity but you may

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also explore and realize that no some things

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in your life need to change.

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And so doing that exploration that is a

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way to combat self-abandonment.

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Let me just start by taking a few

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moments to talk a bit about self-abandonment.

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Now I just want to preface this as

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I always do.

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I am not a mental health therapist.

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I cannot diagnose.

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I cannot treat any sort of condition.

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I can certainly coach and help and stand

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you know in solidarity with you.

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I can hold space for you.

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I can be a witness to what you're

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going through and that's what I do as

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a coach.

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And so that's just where I'm coming from

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here.

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And if you do feel like you know

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things are just you know there's things coming

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up that you need to discuss.

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If you're not feeling safe I encourage you

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to seek help.

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So let's talk about self-abandonment.

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Self-abandonment pretty much starts in childhood and

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it's when you learn that expressing your authentic

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needs emotions or boundaries lead to conflict.

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You know if you're a child and you

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tell your parents you know oh I have

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to go bathroom and instead of saying okay

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let's find a bathroom they say oh not

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again you just went or oh you should

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have went when you you know left the

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house.

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That sort of thing if continued and if

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it becomes a pattern can lead to self

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-abandonment because basically you learn that every time

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you express your needs every time you express

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your emotions like if something hurts and you

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cry and you're constantly chastised for crying you're

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going to learn that those needs and emotions

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are ignored or rejected by other people around

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yourself.

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And so then you learn to reject and

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ignore those needs partly out of a pattern

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and partly out of self-preservation.

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Where self-abandonment comes into play is as

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we become older as we become adults you

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might notice yourself people pleasing.

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You might notice yourself ignoring your gut instincts.

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boundaries or being a real perfectionist and being

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really critical of yourself.

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this and the first step is obviously be

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aware of it.

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The other step is self-compassion and self

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-reflection and that's where I really want to

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focus here today is that self-compassion that

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radical acceptance of yourself and your needs no

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matter what you think about them.

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That self-compassion treating yourself the way you

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treat a loved one you care about the

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way you would treat a beloved companion animal

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that that self-compassion really can help go

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a long way towards being present for yourself.

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Because if you've noticed that people in your

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life are not present for you then it

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is doubly important for you to step up

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and be present for yourself.

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And there's a whole lot I could get

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into that's kind of leans more into mental

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health.

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I you know I kind of just want

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to leave it there for now but I

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encourage you again if you're recognizing some patterns

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and some behaviors you know maybe talk to

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a trusted professional maybe learn a little bit

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more about it maybe reach out to somebody.

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What does that have to do with creating

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space for yourself in a community and especially

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during pride?

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Well I'm going to get vulnerable here for

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a moment and just share that this is

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something that I've been struggling with this pride.

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I live in a very rural community the

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local queer community is not safe for me

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because of some experiences I had with people

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who are connected to it and being somebody

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who pretty much appears cis.

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I mean I pretty much you know I

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cut my hair short but that's about it.

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You know I I cannot medically transition right

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now I can't do a lot of things

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right now in regards to change making changes

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and so pretty much you know I look

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like the gender I was assigned at birth

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and because of that I really struggle and

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of course this goes back into you know

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my own past and that but I really

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struggle to feel connected and a part of

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a community and so you start to say

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things to yourself like oh it doesn't matter

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you know oh it's okay you know I

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I don't need to do that anyway you

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start to dismiss some really serious is the

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word that comes to mind but I don't

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think that's what I'm looking for here some

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really strong urges and really strong thoughts on

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your part you start to dismiss that you

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start to abandon yourself how do we not

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do that how do we make space for

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ourselves when we don't feel wanted by the

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community we're trying to make space in well

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the first step is simply admitting that you

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belong nobody has a monopoly on pride pride

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is a celebration there are non-queer people

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at pride there are you know people from

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all walks of life all across the gender

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sexuality orientation spectrum there everybody belongs at pride

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and so if you could just keep telling

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yourself that not in a you know lying

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to yourself sort of or you know trying

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to change your thoughts but just just gently

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reminding yourself hey you know nobody in spite

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of what some groups may or may not

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think nobody has a monopoly on pride that

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means if you feel safe and able to

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go to a celebration you know do so

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if you want to do something small and

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quiet at home something that's more personal less

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public facing do that so once you admit

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that you belong in a group you can

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decide whether you want to claim public kinship

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with that again you decide how much information

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you disclose or don't disclose you decide what

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you get to do for yourself that's how

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we fight self-abandonment the other thing is

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to understand that there will always be people

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who try to claim ownership of a space

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there will always be people and and and

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at this point i'm stepping outside of just

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talking about pride and going into you know

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any group there will always be people who

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will you know try to tell you that

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you're taking up too much room who will

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try to tell you that you don't belong

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one of the things i've gotten really good

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at in my five decades here on this

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planet is to be comfortable just doing my

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own thing now some of that's the autism

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some of that is again location but i

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mean and this podcast honestly is an example

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of that so um you know if you

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just get comfortable you know banging your own

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drum as the saying goes and just doing

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your thing and even though it's difficult to

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remember just remembering that what other people think

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of that reflects more on them than it

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ever will on you the other thing i

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would encourage you to do to avoid self

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-abandonment is to really think about where that's

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coming from and think about how you can

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make that right with yourself i mean we

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can't go back in time we can't fix

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the things that we have happened to us

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what we can do is make sure we

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give ourselves compassion and love and understand for

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example that that younger version of you that

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didn't have their needs met that wasn't right

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and that that you know happened and so

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because of that you know you need to

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give that younger person you know just the

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same compassion you would give anybody that you

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care about and again i know all of

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this is easier said than done and i

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am right there with you and working on

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this every single day so when we make

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that space for ourselves it's a matter of

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also rethinking our ideas of community now we

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may have an idea of community of how

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we exist how we want to exist in

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a space how we should exist in a

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space what actually should happen when we're in

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a space and a lot of times that's

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not going to happen a lot of times

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you know people everybody being individuals everybody having

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free will that how we show up in

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a space pretty much means that we're going

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to have to deal with other people's actions

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as well and the way other people may

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affect our showing up in a space i

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felt like i was talking in circles there

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so i i apologize but i i think

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what i'm trying to say is let go

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of perceived you know connotations let go of

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any perceived notions that this is how things

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are going to go because we don't know

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how the world how how day-to-day

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minute-to-minute hour-to-hour things are

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going to unfold in front of us i

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don't think anybody has a crystal ball that

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works 100 percent of the time i mean

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even autistic pattern recognition gets it wrong from

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time to time so i think the other

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thing is in some respects to let go

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of our cynicism and this could be the

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hardest thing of all when you have been

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excluded from spaces when you have been treated

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very badly by individuals who maybe claim to

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be a friend or maybe claimed to be

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welcoming you know an organization that claims to

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welcome everybody but then it's very obvious that

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it's obvious that they don't want to make

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accommodations for a disability it's obvious that they

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don't want to you know welcome people who

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maybe process things differently or even welcome people

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who are outside their own experiences when that

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happens it is very easy to fall into

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the trap of cynicism you know my spouse

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has a t-shirt we got it at

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walmart and it looks like a review box

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and it says you know people and then

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you see one stars you know so it's

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like it's it's very easy to dismiss the

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whole human race with the zero stars or

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a one star review but the truth is

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is that when you put people in monolithic

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blocks you diminish them and so in it's

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this is something i need to remember um

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as well that you know when you put

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people in monolithic blocks you just diminish them

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and so i would encourage you to understand

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the harms that people can do but don't

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be cynical about everybody acting the same way

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now this doesn't dismiss anybody you know who

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needs to look at the actions of themselves

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their community make things right reparative justice that

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certainly needs to come into play and the

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more of that that happens frankly the better

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we all think about other people in the

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world around us but to simply pull yourself

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away from a community because you think everybody

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sucks that may be true on like a

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small local level but certainly not on a

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global or national level which brings us back

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to the general topic of our podcast today

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which is making space for yourself when you

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don't feel wanted by a community when you

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don't feel like you're a part of a

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community and i think it comes back down

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to being willing to sit with that loneliness

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being willing to sit with those uncomfortable feelings

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being willing to sit with the grief that

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comes up when you're willing to do that

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you start to become willing to accept your

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own company now does this mean that things

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you don't want things to change of course

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not but what it does do is it

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gets you comfortable holding space taking up space

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and making space for yourself without anybody else

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around and feeling like you belong and i

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would encourage you to in this space to

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start speaking your truth to start speaking authentically

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to start identifying yourself as a member of

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the community because the flip side of this

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is that if somebody on the outside of

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a community looks at a community and all

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they see is kind of a monolith of

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people who look the same act the same

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think the same with subtle differences between them

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then that is not doing a good service

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for the community and that probably would be

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a whole another topic of another podcast maybe

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next year's pride i'll start making notes but

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when you start saying hey i'm a member

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of this community too you also hold up

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a light for other people um i was

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having trouble sleeping last night and i saw

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the most beautiful post on blue sky from

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a gentleman who was basically saying hey please

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don't forget the trans men this pride and

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really reminding everybody within that community that they

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belong at pride that that they deserve the

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same care and concern and not to be

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erased as other members of the lgbtqia spectrum

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and that's something i very much agree with

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um but you know i read that beautiful

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post and i shared it and i thought

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got a little bit of traction online and

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you know that little post that just saying

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hey don't forget about us that really shone

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a light that really shined a light and

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allowed um you know made me feel better

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i'm sure it made other people feel better

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and that's why they shared the post there

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was you know no negative replies there was

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no negative mocking um to the post at

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all and so when you show up in

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a community and you show up as your

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true authentic self even if it's your tiny

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corner of a community then that is going

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to help other people see that they belong

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as well and when we think about it

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the communities that we're in you know basically

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a community is just each of us showing

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up with our own tiny little corner and

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when you put all those corners together it

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makes something big and wonderful and so i

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would encourage you that in the space that

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in space that you have basically don't self

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-abandon yourself don't dismiss your identities don't dismiss

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your wants your needs your desires don't dismiss

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those if loneliness if sadness comes up i

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i encourage you to actually sit with that

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and feel that and express that in whatever

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way feels safest and best to you could

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be a journal could be some form of

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artwork could be talking that over with a

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somebody you know a close person that you

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trust or a professional but i guess where

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i'm going with this is we have to

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stand up for ourselves we have to stop

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abandoning ourselves and when we do that we

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automatically step into a space where we can

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begin to create our own little corners of

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communities thank you so much for listening to

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this podcast as always it is a super

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big help and i am extremely grateful anytime

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you tell a friend about this podcast anytime

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situations please reach out at feather main soul

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much i hope you had a wonderful pride

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and i will speak with you next week

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